I attended todays demo in London over Gaza and filmed Tony Benn's speech below.
I have also put out the following press release calling for a recall of Parliament. It is ludicrous that a serious international incident is being played out before our eyes and yet the Government is doing next to nothing and MPs are unable to even debate this critical issue as Parliament is not sitting.
Labour MP Condemns Government for Inaction over Gaza and Calls for Recall of Parliament. Labour MP John McDonnell has condemned the UK Government’s inaction over Gaza and has called for the recall of Parliament to discuss the action needed by the UK government to halt the bloodshed.
John said 'We are witnessing a bloody massacre in Gaza and yet the UK Government has stood by and simply repeated the usual ritual, ineffective statements of condemnation. I am calling for the recall of Parliament to enable MPs to make clear that we need our Government to take decisive action to help halt this bloodbath and secure a ceasefire. Our Government should be taking a leading role in bringing together a global coalition to isolate Israel diplomatically, economically and militarily. Only in this way will Israeli aggression be halted.'
If Our MP's want to recall Parliament then They should concentrate on helping to solve the economic crisis , or Re-Nationalising Our Public Services , or introducing The Trade Union Freedom Bill , or anything rather than wasting Their time by giving cover to an Iranian backed Terrorist Group while attacking the Democratic State of Israel .
We need to press the incoming Obama administration - you can use www.change.gov. to do so - the official transition website - so go do it now!
i don't know how Israelis who were given a homeland after the holocaust can live with themselves as we see the CNN pictures of the bodies of the children they know they are killing.
Ian: I am sure you are fully aware that Hamas is a legitimate political party which was democratically elected. The USA and Europe are backing Israel with money and arms because they are "our terrorists". The Israelis are following the US-tradition of demonising "the enemy" (be it Native-American Indians, Vietnamese or Palestinians) so that they can justify their extermination. Jews around the world should stand up and condemn Israel's barbaric actions or else quit the moral high ground they have laid claim to for the last 60 years.
I completely agree with Ian Sternberg. We have vast problems here we cannot solve, so why waste valuable energy getting involved in problems that cannot be solved elsewhere. Yes, we know innocent people in Gaza are suffering - we all agree it is a terrible state of affairs. But when people vote for a Party (Hamas), that until recently called for the complete destruction of Israel; has directed thousands of rockets and missiles into Israel (not stones as Robert said); is broadly recognised as a terrorist Organisation (by the US, Canada, Europe and Russia), maybe these people are just a litle bit responsible. Surely these people knew what Hamas were about when they elected them. If Parliament does respond to John's call, I hope it will be to tell Hamas to stop provoking Israel with it's constant attacks, and to face the fact that Israel is there to stay. They should face facts and find a way of living together in peace.
Absolutely - the Palestinians have only themselves to blame. Just as the people who voted for Blair in 2005, knowing his wars had made the world a great deal less safe, were to blame for the tube bombing. But no, because their lives were much more precious than Arab lives, weren't they?
Tonight it is certain pensioners will die of hypothermia because they can’t afford to ‘heat and eat’, Purnell’s welfare reforms are powering ahead, the privatisation of the NHS continues apace, unemployment will reach 3 million by the end of the year.
So where are the campaigns, the anger, etc? the Left can certainly mobilise when it wants to, just look at the demos’ resources, etc it can find for the Palestine Crisis , etc. Good on them, but many on the Far Left/Civil Society sees this mobilisation as a strength, it may be, but it also shows a vacuum on the left/civil society, etc: when such issues as the above are just ignored and put to one side. During the Spaish Civil War, (which saw millions die) for example, the Left raised thousands through ‘Milk for Spain’, while still fighting unemployment though the National Unemployed Workers Movement(NUWM) ,
So why no urgency on the domestic issues? I suspect someone else will soon fill that vacuum and it won’t be pretty.
I still support the Palestinians though, but not Hamas, just calling for attention to domestic concerns, because if we don't there are others waiting in the wings
The lack of action on domestic issues is a symptom of the general apathy within the large group of people who were on the left of the Labour Party. They know they have been betrayed by Blair, Brown etc. but don't quite know where to go from here. Stop the War/SWP have filled the vacuum on international issues and to a certain extent on domestic matters, etc. the NHS and the privatisation of public services.
If People want to " know where to go from here " - then I would advise Them to join The Labour Representation Committee and become active in Their Trade Unions & The Shop Steward's Network .
We must do everything we can to stop the massacre in Gaza: pressure on Obama, stop arms sales and other sanctions. As individuals we can support the BIG campaign and boycott Israeli goods, we can demonstrate, write letters and encourage people to look at the facts of the situation.
The Zionist Israeli government must stop this genocide, return to 1967 borders and give up occupied land, and allow evicted palestinians to return to their homes as demanded by the UN.
The blockade must be lifted and we must find a way to encourage political engagement to bring about peace and respect.
We may have economic problems at home but we do not live in a bubble, what happens here will effect the rest of the world if allowed to.
Israel has taken everything from these poor people and people with nothing have nothing to lose, and then look to more extreme ways to be listened to.
Every nation has a right to defend its land and people - why do the Palestinians always seem to get the blame for trying to get their land back: Israel was given 56% of Palestine, they now occupy over 80%
Hamas may be extreme but are the result of years of occupation - if we want peace then as Desmond Greaves might have said Israel needs to stop giving them something to Hamas about.
I wish we had more Labour MPs like John and Jeremy Corbyn. I wish there were more Tony Benns. In the meantime I'd like to send my best wishes to all the MPs working hard to make our government, the US and EU take a harder line on this issue.
The government must do more - it is shameful that so many of the world's leaders are not doing more.
I totally disagree with Sarah about evey nation having a right to defend it's land. We live in a globalised world now, and Nation States are in reality, no longer relevant. Just look at the press today, the vast sums loaned to Banks has gone overseas - none to protecting our businesses and jobs here. The Arab Israeli dispute has racial hatred at it's heart, so it's appalling the left have any truck with it.
Anon: Are you trying to say that any criticism of Israel is anti-semitic? Jews for Justice in Palestine would disagree - they recently raised £35,000 in aid of Palestine. I totally agree with Sarah and I hope that the Israeli government will be tried for war crimes. Why do most MPs support action against Gaza to prevent smuggling whilst Israel is openly provided with huge amounts of arms by Britain and the US and, unlike the Palestinians, they have everything they need including food and medicines?
Anonymous that posted at 12.08pm, I am sure if another country invaded our country you would expect us to defend ourselves as we have done in previous wars.
The fact of the matter is that Israel occupies Palesinian land that does not belong to it and keeps Palestinians in nothing more than a Ghetto. Israel must return to pre 1967 borders and end the blockade if the middle east is to find peace. They must also allow Palestinians to return to the homes they have been evicted from, as demanded by the UN.
Resisting an occupation by a foreign army with the use of force is permitted under international law.
The UN has upheld that Palestine is occupied by a foreign force.
The UN has ruled that Israel illegally occupies Palestine (Palestinian territory).
That's really all you need to know...the rest is irrelevant.
However if you still disagree you must surely aggree that the disproportionate use of force must truly be a war crime with the use of Phosphorus and indiscriminate shooting of innocents showing a total disregard for human life.
As for the bit about racial hatred, yes I agree the Zionist Israeli goverment seems to have a total disregard for the Palestinians and have carried out what can only be described as an attempted genocide.
It is good to see people all around the world or all religions, black and white, young and old uniting in solidarity with the Palestinians - this of course includes many Israelis who do not support the racist Zionist regime.
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If Our MP's want to recall Parliament then They should concentrate on helping to solve the economic crisis ,
or Re-Nationalising Our Public Services , or introducing The Trade Union Freedom Bill , or anything rather than wasting Their time by giving cover to an Iranian backed Terrorist Group while attacking the Democratic State of Israel .
We need to press the incoming Obama administration - you can use www.change.gov. to do so - the official transition website - so go do it now!
i don't know how Israelis who were given a homeland after the holocaust can live with themselves as we see the CNN pictures of the bodies of the children they know they are killing.
According to Brown on TV today well Israel have a right to kill because hammas have been throwing stones again.
Ian: I am sure you are fully aware that Hamas is a legitimate political party which was democratically elected. The USA and Europe are backing Israel with money and arms because they are "our terrorists". The Israelis are following the US-tradition of demonising "the enemy" (be it Native-American Indians, Vietnamese or Palestinians) so that they can justify their extermination. Jews around the world should stand up and condemn Israel's barbaric actions or else quit the moral high ground they have laid claim to for the last 60 years.
Any response from the powers that be to the recall call?
I completely agree with Ian Sternberg. We have vast problems here we cannot solve, so why waste valuable energy getting involved in problems that cannot be solved elsewhere.
Yes, we know innocent people in Gaza are suffering - we all agree it is a terrible state of affairs. But when people vote for a Party (Hamas), that until recently called for the complete destruction of Israel; has directed thousands of rockets and missiles into Israel (not stones as Robert said); is broadly recognised as a terrorist Organisation (by the US, Canada, Europe and Russia), maybe these people are just a litle bit responsible. Surely these people knew what Hamas were about when they elected them.
If Parliament does respond to John's call, I hope it will be to tell Hamas to stop provoking Israel with it's constant attacks, and to face the fact that Israel is there to stay. They should face facts and find a way of living together in peace.
Absolutely - the Palestinians have only themselves to blame. Just as the people who voted for Blair in 2005, knowing his wars had made the world a great deal less safe, were to blame for the tube bombing. But no, because their lives were much more precious than Arab lives, weren't they?
Tonight it is certain pensioners will die of hypothermia because they can’t afford to ‘heat and eat’, Purnell’s welfare reforms are powering ahead, the privatisation of the NHS continues apace, unemployment will reach 3 million by the end of the year.
So where are the campaigns, the anger, etc? the Left can certainly mobilise when it wants to, just look at the demos’ resources, etc it can find for the Palestine Crisis , etc. Good on them, but many on the Far Left/Civil Society sees this mobilisation as a strength, it may be, but it also shows a vacuum on the left/civil society, etc: when such issues as the above are just ignored and put to one side. During the Spaish Civil War, (which saw millions die) for example, the Left raised thousands through ‘Milk for Spain’, while still fighting unemployment though the National Unemployed Workers Movement(NUWM) ,
So why no urgency on the domestic issues? I suspect someone else will soon fill that vacuum and it won’t be pretty.
I still support the Palestinians though, but not Hamas, just calling for attention to domestic concerns, because if we don't there are others waiting in the wings
Given the potential for it to escalate into the involvement of nuclear weapons I agree with you.
The lack of action on domestic issues is a symptom of the general apathy within the large group of people who were on the left of the Labour Party. They know they have been betrayed by Blair, Brown etc. but don't quite know where to go from here. Stop the War/SWP have filled the vacuum on international issues and to a certain extent on domestic matters, etc. the NHS and the privatisation of public services.
Dear Anonymous ,
If People want to " know where to go from here " - then I would advise Them to join The Labour Representation Committee and become active in Their Trade Unions & The Shop Steward's Network .
We must do everything we can to stop the massacre in Gaza: pressure on Obama, stop arms sales and other sanctions. As individuals we can support the BIG campaign and boycott Israeli goods, we can demonstrate, write letters and encourage people to look at the facts of the situation.
The Zionist Israeli government must stop this genocide, return to 1967 borders and give up occupied land, and allow evicted palestinians to return to their homes as demanded by the UN.
The blockade must be lifted and we must find a way to encourage political engagement to bring about peace and respect.
We may have economic problems at home but we do not live in a bubble, what happens here will effect the rest of the world if allowed to.
Israel has taken everything from these poor people and people with nothing have nothing to lose, and then look to more extreme ways to be listened to.
Every nation has a right to defend its land and people - why do the Palestinians always seem to get the blame for trying to get their land back: Israel was given 56% of Palestine, they now occupy over 80%
Hamas may be extreme but are the result of years of occupation - if we want peace then as Desmond Greaves might have said Israel needs to stop giving them something to Hamas about.
I wish we had more Labour MPs like John and Jeremy Corbyn. I wish there were more Tony Benns. In the meantime I'd like to send my best wishes to all the MPs working hard to make our government, the US and EU take a harder line on this issue.
The government must do more - it is shameful that so many of the world's leaders are not doing more.
I totally disagree with Sarah about evey nation having a right to defend it's land. We live in a globalised world now, and Nation States are in reality, no longer relevant.
Just look at the press today, the vast sums loaned to Banks has gone overseas - none to protecting our businesses and jobs here.
The Arab Israeli dispute has racial hatred at it's heart, so it's appalling the left have any truck with it.
Anon: Are you trying to say that any criticism of Israel is anti-semitic? Jews for Justice in Palestine would disagree - they recently raised £35,000 in aid of Palestine.
I totally agree with Sarah and I hope that the Israeli government will be tried for war crimes.
Why do most MPs support action against Gaza to prevent smuggling whilst Israel is openly provided with huge amounts of arms by Britain and the US and, unlike the Palestinians, they have everything they need including food and medicines?
Anonymous that posted at 12.08pm, I am sure if another country invaded our country you would expect us to defend ourselves as we have done in previous wars.
The fact of the matter is that Israel occupies Palesinian land that does not belong to it and keeps Palestinians in nothing more than a Ghetto. Israel must return to pre 1967 borders and end the blockade if the middle east is to find peace. They must also allow Palestinians to return to the homes they have been evicted from, as demanded by the UN.
Resisting an occupation by a foreign army with the use of force is permitted under international law.
The UN has upheld that Palestine is occupied by a foreign force.
The UN has ruled that Israel illegally occupies Palestine (Palestinian territory).
That's really all you need to know...the rest is irrelevant.
However if you still disagree you must surely aggree that the disproportionate use of force must truly be a war crime with the use of Phosphorus and indiscriminate shooting of innocents showing a total disregard for human life.
As for the bit about racial hatred, yes I agree the Zionist Israeli goverment seems to have a total disregard for the Palestinians and have carried out what can only be described as an attempted genocide.
It is good to see people all around the world or all religions, black and white, young and old uniting in solidarity with the Palestinians - this of course includes many Israelis who do not support the racist Zionist regime.
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