John McDonnell MP: Another World Is Possible

Saturday, July 25, 2009

"Open Left"; How dare they call themselves Left?

The Guardian's Comment is Free website asked me to comment on the Purnell/Cruddas Demos "Open Left" exercise. I wrote this article on Friday after we heard the Norwich North result. I had in mind the work that Ian Gibson had put in in trying to prevent New Labour bringing in tuiton fees. Just one of the New Labour policies that has contributed to undermining our support.


If the Norwich North byelection result tells us anything it is that it's time to tell it straight about what and who has brought us to a situation where the Labour party gets hammered in a seat where it should come safely home, and which has clearly opened the door to a Tory government.

So in that spirit of telling it like it is let me say that my first reaction to James Purnell's Demos Open Left project was how dare they bloody well use the term "left".

This is about the fourth or fifth, (I lost count some time ago), attempt by former New Labour apparatchiks to try and reinvent themselves. We have had former Blair/Brown insider advisers Neal Lawson and Jon Cruddas with Compass, Charles Clarke and Alan Milburn with 2020 Vision, and now James Purnell and Jon Cruddas with Demos's Open Left.

No matter how clever the project's title, how well its re-launch statements are drafted and how smart its website, none of them can escape from the objective history of the part they played in creating and supporting the reactionary, political deviation that was New Labour, a political project that has brought the Labour party to the edge of extinction.

Between them all they have either been the architects of, the advisers to, the parliamentary lobby fodder in support of or the ministerial implementers of policies which have left at least half a million innocent people dead in Iraq, doubled the number of homeless families in Britain, privatised more public sector jobs than Thatcher and Major put together, undermined long-cherished basic civil liberties and forced through so brutal an attack on the recipients of welfare benefits that even the Thatcher government refused to implement.

Quoting past Labour party theoreticians, intellectualising justifications for betrayal in the language of an A-level sociology paper, and speaking left while voting right will not wash off the blood of the murdered Iraqis or stem the tears of a single parent forced off benefits or help explain to the unemployed person how they can live on £65-a-week jobseeker's allowance.

Some among this crew realised sooner than others that the only hope for their future political careers was to jump ship from New Labour and to rebrand themselves on the left. They have been assisted by parts of the media that are implicated in delivering the Labour party and the country up to Blair, Brown and Mandelson, and who are also trying to distance themselves from the creature they helped create.

Asked what was the difference between the left and right, Italian philosopher Norberto Bobbio replied that the left always seeks greater equality and the right always produces greater inequality. New Labour has created a society scarred by inequality, more unequal than at any time since the second world war.

The debate about the future of progressive advance in this country cannot be left in the hands of the guilty people who pursued the policies that inflicted this inequality on our community. They deserve to be swept away.

Instead, a progressive future is being debated and determined by others, especially those forging their ideas while taking action. The real debate about a progressive future is among the workers occupying the Vestas factory, among the blacklisted workers, among the cleaners fighting for a living wage, among the climate campers who will take the debate to the streets of the City of London in August, and among those Labour party members, trade unionists and others on the left whose credibility has not been undermined by association with the degenerate policies of New Labour.

posted by John at 9:12 PM | permalink |

77 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

John McDonnell

Just by being in New Labour makes YOU one of them. If you had the guts you would have left and stood on a more higher moral platform...You didn`t.

10:56 PM 
Blogger Harry Barnes said...

Anonymous : John isn't in New Labour, he is in the Labour Party. Whilst this is the same thing for some, it isn't for John and others of us.

4:58 PM 
Anonymous Tony Benn supporter said...

For the good of the Country and the Labour Party please replace Gordon Brown as Leader.
There will never be a better time if Labour wish to avoid meltdown at the next General Election.

7:19 AM 
Blogger Robert said...

I had enough once Labour brought in the welfare reforms, I was asked to go onto BBC to discuss what this means to a disabled person, I said I thought it was wrong that a Labour party would bring in such Draconian welfare reforms. three days later I had a phone call from labour office saying if you do not like New labour you can always leave so i did sod them.

10:58 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harry Barnes

Harry I understand what you are saying. The problem I have is this. Being in New Labour is to be one off complicity. Just by making up the numbers to make New Labour the government of the day. It doesn`t make sense if you think about it. I am to the FAR left and it would be like the BNP taken over my party and me staying in it paying my subs and saying I oppose what my party is doing...doesn`t make sense.Think about it.

Why doesn`t John leave and rejoin when the New Labour party becomes the old Labour party again...fight for it on the outside on a more higher moral platform. Good God Harry why doesn`t John walk across the floor and join Respect.He would do more good with the amount of publicity that would bring then staying in New Labour. I couldn`t do what John and a few more are doing staying in New Labour,they are in fact doing more damage by keeping some as members (making up the nembers)living in hope that a miracle may take place and New Labour becomes old Labour. Better to start all over again then stay with the EVIL of New Labour.I couldn`t stay.

1:23 PM 
Blogger susan press said...

Anonymous, our chances, slim as they are, of re-claiming the Party in office as one we can be proud of would be much slimmer if we upped sticks and waited for things to change. They will only change, if they change at all, from within. How can they possibly change if all socialists leave?
On the inside, we still have a Parliamentary platform,tiny though it is, and are taken more seriously, than we would be if we left and joined a party like RESPECT which frankly, has imploded and has no future.
We don't need a "miracle", we need more members, more activists to join us and fight for the socialist policies backed by authentic left MPs and thousands of Labour mmebers who do not enjoy the media privileges of Purnell, Cruddas and the rest.
Following the Norwich North disaster, the anger in the Party is such that I believe now could be a time of real opportunity so socialists within Labour should continue, hard as it is, to campaign inside the Party and also of course continue a dialogue with people like yourself. I understand your feelings , but in walking away, Labour's Left would do those in struggle the greatest disservice possible. Yes, we need to start all over again. But that does not necessarily mean abandoning the Labour Party.

1:53 PM 
Blogger Harry Barnes said...

Anonymous : Susan is correct. Even Lenin made the distinction between "a compromise enforced by objective conditions" and "a compromise by traitors". If being in the Labour Party seems to you to be part of the politics of compromise; then I believe that John, Susan and (I hope) myself can be seen as being amongst those socialist Labour Party activists who can show that they are not in the latter camp.

3:21 PM 
Anonymous MiniMises said...

New Labour is left McDonnell. No Conservative government would have built up a 14% deficit. No Tory government would be financially imprudent.

New Labour has all the characterists of the loony left. It is authoritarian. It wants to destroy capitalism (which is a democratic system because people choose to exchange goods and services), it believes in nationalisation. It believes in statism (Brown is the perfect statist). They believing in taxing and taxing until there is nothing left to tax (in real terms taxes have gone up 50% under Labour).

And John you still have not answered any of my questions. Are you really that frightened of debate? Is it because you know you cannot win an argument against someone who has a free mind and does not slavishly remark, ''Oh John you are a truly principled man.''

6:55 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Susan/Harry

It pains me no end and has for MANY a year that there are so many left wing parties...and nothing in real terms of power. When will the left get together and become the force it could for the good of all...I think...Hmmmm...I should live so long.

Still disagree with you about leaving New Labour...but there again isn`t that what we socialists do best...disagree with each other. Seems it`s all we do really and have been for many a year.

I am so depressed...not good at my time of life.

6:57 PM 
Anonymous MiniMises said...

You socialists are very good at destroying good and honest peoples' lives. You believe you have a right to use the state to change behaviour and then you have the nerve to say you believe in democracy. What about the right to choose our own healthcare instead of being taxed to use the grossly ineffective and inefficient NHS. What about my democratic right to keep the money I work my arse off for.

It's ok for rich socialists like McDonnell and Benn, who don't have to live like us Proles. Their nice salaries mean they don't live like the working classes they claim to represent. Tony Benn for example lives in Holland Park, one of the most exclusive areas in London. Why dosen't he live in Hackney with us proles? He wants the state to redistribute wealth. Why dosen't he redistribute his multi million pound fortune? He preaches nationalisation and abolition of private property. Why dosen't he nationalise his country estate, Stansgate Estate, and let poor people live in there.

No he won't. Like many of the metropolitan socialists, he claims to be a representative of the working class, as long as he dosen't have to live near them. McDonnell is the same. A wanabee intellectual.

New Labour has increased taxation in real terms by 50% since 1997, and has spent more money that it steals from us in taxation, creating a massive budget deficit. Mr Brown was the same old statist, socialistic tax and spend Chancellor after his flirtation with dear Prudence.

So stop trying to weasel out of a situation McDonnell. You could easily leave the party and stand as an independent in the constituency you currently represent. But you won't. You have a safe seat and a first class seat on the gravy train.

If you haven't got the guts to get elected as a Respect MP or an independent MP, stop criticising your party which is impeccably left wing.

3:53 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, united we stand, divided we fall, I for one donot believe in breakaways If all of the comrades had stayed in the party we would now have a stronger voice in parliament.

9:56 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John, I don't know if you read comments on your blog, but you must realise this Purnell/Cruddas thing is just a tactic by New Labour to distance itself from a defunct political project. This tactic started when Brown took over as PM. The New Labour mafia, supported by media chums tried to make it sound as though there had been a competition between Brownites and Blairites - but Brown and Blair were both major architects of New Labour,and held/hold exactly the same views. The reason that the New Labour mafia, are now distancing themselves from New Labour policies, are the same as those that have caused the media to turn against Brown with such ferocity. The simple truth is that the New Labour Policies which had previously won such favour with the likes of Murdoch, are, as a result of recent events (downturn in the economy/upturn in Tory popularity), past their sell by date.
This is why the likes of Purnell shouldn't annoy you. His ideas about egalitarian capitalism in todays economic and political climate are redundant (even if he tries to dress them up as left wing thinking). The fact is we are heading towards a period of great hardship for many people. Jobs, taxes, public services,and immigration are all going to figure far more prominently, and will politicise people, in the way that it did after the great depression of the 1930's.
Sadly, I don't think this will immediately lead to a resurgence of Old Labour - more likely a swing to the extreme right.

3:25 PM 
Anonymous Dirty Euro said...

MiniMises
You make no sense you are saying Benn is bad because he wants to rich to pay higher taxes to fund the health care of the poor. While you as an ignorant redneck want the rich to have lower taxes and to die younger from no healthcare, and then call it choice and freedom. What are you on about.
That is like taking food away from the poor and giving them a dinner plate of crap and calling it choice, because you give them a choice of 3 different dinner plates of crap.
You use the term proles.
In 1984 the elites left the proles alone they were too stupid to worry about fighting for themselves. The elites could ignore them as they were too dumb to worry about their own condition. It seems you would fit in well.
I may be poor but I am not a prole, you are.

10:57 AM 
Anonymous Dirty Euro said...

Minimises if you want to healthcare and no public services then go ahead give more money to the rich prole.

If you want not healthcare,so the rich can drive more rolls royces, be a first order moron.
I am sure in your world Tony Benn would have been put in room 101, and you would have been boasting of how great this was fro freedom while being shafted by a rich guy.

10:59 AM 
Anonymous MiniMises said...

In my world, people would be free to redistribute their own wealth if they choose to do so. That is the principle of a capitalist democracy. If people want to fund public services, they can sacrifice some of their wages along with people from the community and set up their own localised services instead of a state bureaucracy based on targets and management.

I wouldn't put anybody in Room 101. But I'd expect a rich socialist like Tony Benn to practice what he preaches instead of being the hypocritical swine that he is.

2:20 PM 
Blogger Harry Barnes said...

Labour : What Is To Be Done? See -
http://dronfieldblather.blogspot.com/2009/07/labour-what-is-to-be-done.html

2:53 PM 
Blogger Riversider said...

One lesson that the Vestas workers are revealing is the total bankruptcy of New Labour and Milliband. They talk green, then stand by as 625 wind turbine workers are sacked.

http://riversstream.blogspot.com/2009/07/vestas-5-things-occupying-workers-are.html

We badly need a new working class alternative to Labour

3:46 PM 
Anonymous MiniMises said...

My word, you socialists accuse the rich of being snobs and only interest in themselves, yet you openly call for a party based on class lines. Why are you allowed to get away with it but not the rich? Why do you criticise the rich for supposed social exclusion and snobbery but practice its inverse instead?

7:12 PM 
Anonymous dirty euro said...

MiniMises So the police and army can only be funded by charity. So someone gets murdered and you have to rely on charity to solve the murder. Rather than a tax funded police service.

11:02 PM 
Anonymous Dave Smith said...

minimiss, choice is only choice if you can afford it! you are weak minded and totally sucked in with the capitalists hegemony and you have my pitty. and the reason John wont debate you is the fact he would tare you apart and spit you out! do you really want to look even more foolish than you do now??

8:43 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to tell you all this.

I go round a LOT of blogs and their is a appearing a common occurrence, it is happening to many times to be a coincidence and the people that are doing it ALL seem to have the same style and tenure about their posts...MiniMises...is such. It is VERY hard to ignore such and very quickly threads lose any real discussion on important events. This only happens on Socialist blogs. Look for yourself and you will see this is now common.

9:51 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry,should be there not "their" thinking about two things at the same time does that...lol.

4:27 PM 
Blogger Ken said...

I see Minimises is at at it again with his cynical portrayl of the left. Why does he come on here, he should piss off onto Conservative Party websites with his other brain dead mates who are happy for the rich to get richer while everybody else gets poorer.

11:57 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

August 2nd, 2009

"The Bastards Never Die"...

http://tinyurl.com/no7yca


July 28, 2009

"Profits driving stocks a sign of danger"...

http://tinyurl.com/l39wf5

In the above link..."Profits driving stocks a sign of danger"...Rick Wolff is only part right. He doesn`t see that trade unions in third world countries will not be allowed to organise. Does he think that they will?. Hmmm...No answers down that road Rick Wolff. The other thing is trade union leaders will just be bought off like they have been here in the west...No answers down that road Rick Wolff.

As a friend of mine said...

"Or if they don't take the bribe, they are "disposed off" .. whether physically or via threats to family and friends".

11:29 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Link above not working,try this...

"The Bastards Never Die"...

http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/the-bastards-never-die/

11:37 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Political cartoon entitled 'The Labour Party rescues the unemployed' satirising the Labour Party's ineffectiveness in alleviating the plight of the unemployed."

"The less than supportive attitude and response of the Labour Party and the trade unions to the plight of the unemployed during the depression years converted many of the unemployed to communism. The communist-controlled National Unemployed Workers Movement agitated for the unemployed and became the main political organisation campaigning for the rights of the unemployed during the depression years."

"This cartoon was first published in 1922 in 'The Communist', at that time the weekly organ of the Young Communist Party, which was later that year replaced by the Workers' Weekly as the official organ of the Communist Party of Great Britain."...

http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/redclyde/redcly042.htm

http://tinyurl.com/lkbx8h

12:24 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just click onto the pictures they will enlarge...

http://tinyurl.com/nx879u

http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/redclyde/redclyindexcartoons.html

12:38 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep up the good work John, it's people like you that convinced me to join the Labour party in the first place. Keep up the struggle!

@MiniMises - You're naming yourself after a thinker considered so insane that not even Thatcher would touch him. If it were up to "libertarians" like you we'd all be starving whilst the rich sit there in mansions drinking cocktails - and what's worse, you'd praise them for it.

8:01 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Latvia In Crisis as Thatcher Free Market Model Collapses"...

http://tinyurl.com/mkyb3k

10:08 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The above should read...

World In Crisis as Thatcher Free Market Model Collapses.

11:21 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tony Blair to be President of the European Union ?...Whatever next...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/209174/page/1

http://tinyurl.com/lyw4gb

11:47 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I knew this was coming.

The tories have NEVER wanted the NHS and right wing New Labour don`t want it. The next 5 years will see it almost gone. You got to find the money to pay for your health needs or go and find a charity hospital.

You will find that the insurance companies will find ways NOT to honour your insurance policy by saying things like...You didn`t tell us that your condition was a genetic condition as your great,great,great grandfather died off this condition...Some insurance companies are already doing this NOW on their policies. They ask you to tell them your family history going right back. If you don`t put it down they will find out from records and DNA tests...No pay out.

You will also find things like this happening...You will be asked that if you donate one of you kidneys etc you can get free treatment even children will have to agree to this...Think about it...Lots,lots and lots of money to be made...

http://tinyurl.com/na6j5e

I knew this was coming...Bit by bit by bit.

4:23 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Came across this...

http://tinyurl.com/mch78b

8:05 PM 
Anonymous MiniMises said...

It has been a long time. More insults directed at me yet nobody seems to be able to answer my questions. Is that what passes for debate on the Left nowadays?

To the moron who told me to piss of to the Conservative Party, I have only one thing to say. You piss of if you want too, MiniMises, is not for turning.

If you think I support that dripping wet bunch of oligeanous, contradictory, opaque pansies then you are even more idiotic than I thought.

And to the moron who criticises me for naming myself after Ludwig Von Mises, I say to you... isn't Mr Marx considered extreme by the comfortable metropolitan elites who preach social democracy and Keynesianism? I have many serious animadversions of Marx, but at least he had an independent mind unlike some of the McDonnell drones on here, or are you all the same person? Your inchoate responses to my point highlight my belief that most lefties are dribbling morons with the brain capacity of a newt's testicle. But then to you I probably represent those capitalist demon Gods who slaughter babies in Germanic forests whilst masturbating over photographs of Rupert Murdoch.

Von Mises was one of the greatest thinkers of his time, and before you criticise his entire portfolio of social and economic commentary, please try and read his works. Human Action is the best place to start, but if I was you, I'd only read chapter at a time so as to not overextend my three braincells (good Lord my insults are becoming even more pathetic than the Left).

Good day to you all capitalistic comrades*

*For you truly are capitalistic. For why else would you benefit from the products of free trade and competitive markets e.g. cheap internet, cheap technology etc. You are paying a big business to provide you with a service. Supply and demand. I wonder if anyone has a good explanation for that (not an inchoate one please, I still have a will to live).

5:31 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Click on "Show Original Post" at top of page...

http://tinyurl.com/mluufn

10:25 PM 
Blogger Al said...

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11:00 PM 
Blogger Al said...

Another good article.

I have to say this sham "Open Left" project was something that I'd missed but thanks for keeping me up to date.

I wondered how long it would take Purnell to re-brand himself. Because that's all it is. Branding.

Let's be hoping that this "project" is not percieved as the left of the party. I'm seeing the passionate return of the policies and concerns that you raise.

Just a minor point, whilst I appreciate your devotion to your constituency and your parliamentary career, it would be great to see you out and about throughout the country pushing the message, rather than just in London. You are the reassuring figure within the Labour party that many concerned supporters are calling for

11:01 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"More insults directed at me yet nobody seems to be able to answer my questions. Is that what passes for debate on the Left nowadays?"

MiniMises

We have only one thing to say to you...

http://tinyurl.com/kmaq6p

Make that two...

http://tinyurl.com/pmbe5

9:26 AM 
Anonymous MiniMises said...

Anonymous, why not answer my questions? If the Left is so passionate about debate and democracy then why not reciprocate?

3:02 PM 
Blogger Dave Smith said...

no one will answer your questions minimouse (or whatever the hell your name is) because your a twat! sorry I've nothing more thoughtful to say about you but I think 'twat' covers it all!

8:33 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Video.... "Interviews at Los Angeles health care clinic"...

http://tinyurl.com/l6n9ua

10:18 AM 
Anonymous MiniMises said...

I call myself many things but twat is far too juvenile. I have a few suggestions for you (as I believe in complete honesty and despise false modesty; arrogant, pompous, aloof, but far too intelligent to receive answers from the likes of you.

10:02 PM 
Blogger Robert said...

I've sat in a room a few weeks ago listening to a new labour drone, tell me life under the Tories will be hell, they told me the sick the disabled will be thrown onto the scrap heap, unlike New labour who's plans are to get people into paid employment.

A few days later I listened to two idiots tell me it was time to get rid of the immigrants to make the white working class the ruling class as labour sends this country into hands of immigrants, they called me brother not having an idea my father was an immigrant to this country.

But sitting back I thought hold on labour have put us through two wars, they have locked up innocent kids in jails called detention camps, they allow young people to walk the streets as outcasts, all because they dared to enter this country to try and get a better life. Which party is the worse New Labour or the BNP, right now it's New Labour.

I tore up my Labour party card finally after 40 years, I've not bothered to rejoin compass and I will not be rejoining the LRC, I do think New Labour and Labour are in fact the same party.

Will I vote at the next election yes, I may well do so, but in protest I might well vote BNP, because until people get smacked in the face with a few of these racist morons we will just carry on.

9:08 AM 
Anonymous Dirty Euro said...

Robert you are a manipulative racist thug. You are voting for a party founded by a neo nazi. John Tyndal the founder of the BNP has been pictured in front of a NAZI flag.
You are evil. You will allow a innocent people to suffer due to some warped logic that voting for an evil party will make labour good. No it will shift every other party to become an evil scumbag party like the one you vote for.
People like you make evil happen.

1:48 PM 
Anonymous Dirty Euro said...

Robert. OK so you are disabled then. Sorry for being so harsh on you there then. But the BNP will do far more damage to you than labour ever will.
I apologize for insulting you so severely there. But the BNP will cause more people to suffer.
Why can you not vote for a socialist party instead of an evil party the BNP is sending the wrong message.
If you want the labour party to be more idealistic then vote for an idealistic party not an evil party.

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